Aye, I remember those games when we used to beat teams like Andorra 4 or 5 nill without getting out of 2nd gear. Those were the days eh
Not impressed but I'm also not putting too much stock into it. Didn't like his usage of the 8s or Lewis-Skelly. You play Rice at 8 because you want the ball winning capabilities as well as the box crashing. But off the ball against Andorra is so redundant you might as well play a Rogers or Gibbs-White there instead and have more invention on the ball. And then he's got Eze standing as high as Kane at times.....that feels like a waste of a skillset to me. And then Lewis-Skelly is not a traditional full-back. Start Livramento if you want a marauding full-back to overlap the wingers. If 4-3-3 was the move, it should have been this: Pickford James Guehi Burn Livramento Rice Eze Rogers/MGW Madueke Kane Rashford
Yep. Southgate built a team, and made representing your country a privelege. We're now back to having a foreign manager and a load of individuals who look half arsed. Yippee.
Why do ITV use the Donald Trump book of football facts , the last Villa player to score for England at Villa Park was in fact the late Ugo Ehiogu. Against Spain in 2001 in what was Sven's first game.
a lot of England games are, listening to Dixon repeat they need to move the ball faster doesn't help as they never do, you could do that graphic where they circle the defenders and j precisely. all that it provides is ammo for some to prattle on about how great it was before, except the games were much the same just happened to get more goals - and I heard Andorra have worked hard on their game as ever the crunch would come at the finals, as would be sung by many right now if England had won 10 nil, the rhetoric will always be fitted to the result/performance. Regardless if seen as better or worse under X England haven't won diddly in approaching sixty years, may well not win the World Cup (probably won't) but then same has been the case before, thinking one manager has the answers is daft Good to see so many getting behind the current man instead of pining after............ oh wait....
Think there's going to be a few people appreciating the job that Southgate did when next summer comes around.
England - Malta, 08.10.2016 - World Cup qualification Europe - Match sheet England - Malta, 17.11.2023 - European Qualifiers - Match sheet Hmmmm, what about 167th rated Malta, twice? Lets stop pretending Southgate was any better.
I'm a lapsed England Travel Club member, had to give it up due to life getting in the way a few years ago and nothing i've seen under Tuchel has inspired me to even consider getting back into the game. I was critical of Southgate a lot and his management in the big games but at least we dispatched these minnows by 5, 6 or 7.
Hey we only thrashed Kazakhstan 1-0 and were lucky in that so feel the pain you lot do. No easy games at international level apparently. Three points is what matters though. Heard the game was a cracker on CEEFAX.
Yeah they were also embarrassing results at the time and he was criticised for them - nobody is saying Southgate was perfect but he was a damn site better than Tuchel has been so far. He also learnt from them and improved, Tuchel just blames his players rather than working hard to improve the overall picture. His "frustrated on the sidelines" routine is getting old - if you're a good manager you get the players playing how you want to you don't make frustrated gestures on the side-line and try to pin it on the players. Two euro finals and world cup semi-final, I guarantee you Thomas Tuchel will never get anywhere near those sort of records; it's not just about the score-line it's the manner of the performance. I guarantee you Tuchel's England won't even get out the group stage at the World Cup if we don't sack him. Southgate had a team out on the pitch playing together and Tuchel has a bunch of good individuals out there who might as well be playing on an empty pitch. If we get beaten by Serbia on Tuesday as I expect the writing's on the wall.
Nah, wont will he.... Manager Borussia Dortmund DFB-Pokal: 2016–17[290] Paris Saint-Germain Ligue 1: 2018–19,[291] 2019–20[292] Coupe de France: 2019–20;[293] runner-up: 2018–19[294] Coupe de la Ligue: 2019–20[115] Trophée des Champions: 2018,[75] 2019[295] UEFA Champions League runner-up: 2019–20[296] Chelsea UEFA Champions League: 2020–21[297] UEFA Super Cup: 2021[298] FIFA Club World Cup: 2021[299] Bayern Munich Bundesliga: 2022–23[300] I guarantee Southgate will never have records like this. For the record, Im not a fan, but again, stop pretending Southgate was any better...
Only one thing really matters and it’s the World Cup but I cannot see us doing much due to the conditions and set up .
Record as club manager counts for absolutely nothing in international football. There's a long list of managers who've been great at club level and failed at international level. There's also a long list of poor club managers who've been great at international football. Southgate was the best England manager since Alf Ramsay and Tuchel clearly isn't fit to lick his shoes from the evidence so far. However we're obviously not going to agree on this. There's no pretending about it.
The only real impressive one there was chelseas champions league win. Dortmund Cup is decent but that's just beating bayern once if they even met
Still, far more impressive than anything Southgate has achieved. Southgates entire managerial career... 2016 Toulon Cup
