The Manager Sack Race

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  1. njmcfc1894

    njmcfc1894 Registered User

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    And roll over week later

    Back to Old Trafford maybe
     
  2. A Gooner

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    Narcissist.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure what West Ham's expectations are. I mean, they're 9th. Is midtable an unreasonable finish all things considered?

    Not a fan of Moyes by any stretch, but reckon this could end up being a big mistake and if it goes tits up and they end up struggling in the bottom half it will be deserved.

    He'll walk into another Premier League job within 6 months. Got to wonder if a return to Everton will be on the cards. He can do better though.
     
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    He's done a great job on PL and Europe, not sure without an investor that theres much higher they can go.

    They take a few twattings but so do the teams active them.
     
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    a lot of our fans can’t stand the football. That’s the issue and plenty of clubs have had this issue with past managers, yourselves included with Roy. It could absolutely backfire though

    Personally I’d keep him and tbh most fans feel the same, but I can also see the other side, especially from fans paying to watch us every week. It’s more of a vocal minority that want the manager out and they appear to have got their wish
     
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    I am not sure Lopetegui had Wolves playing particularly expansive attacking football either though if is what fans want ?
     
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    A send off that he richly deserves for what he's achieved there.
     
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    I wonder what the deal was.

    Was there an option buried in his contract for another year or something?

    Mutual consent in the case of an expired contract seems utterly strange to be so important to them.

    In fairness to both palace and West ham there are some really good players in both squads but I'd not say either have performed near where those players suggest.

    The conference league was excellent win but not exactly a tough ride through while you were near the bottom all season.

    This season the league was better and good and Europe was OK but hit the first good side and out.

    Only time will tell.

    Palace have some really good players but zero consistency at times and zero will apparently to take another step. The new manager might convince a fee pound to be spent to strengthen rather than sell everyone.
     
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    I think whittling down West Ham going out to (unbeaten in all competitions, German champions, on for one of the singular greatest seasons in club football) Leverkusen as simply ‘the first good side and out’ is doing them a bit of a disservice :laugh:
     
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    Indeed, they are arguably the best side in Europe this season and we actually ran them fairly close until the last few minutes of the game
     
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    Lopetegui is a good manager and he did a very good job at Wolves. He did have a more than decent budget in the January window but that wasn't really a choice, it was a necessity as we were rock bottom, on 10 points and definitely going down. It was a testament to the job he did that we stayed up comfortably and with games to spare.

    In terms of his style I wouldn't expect free flowing attacking football based on his time here (although we had started to look better in pre-season) he will definitely want money to spend and backing that's why his time here came to an end - I didn't mind him outing the owners at the time because they definitely got him in under false pretences and then moved the goalposts a number of times. I'd say the way he went about it leaking all of it to Ballague was pretty poor stuff though. He should do a good job at West Ham but he will need backing, unfortunately clubs like ourselves and West Ham have to cut our cloth at some point and as soon as there was a hint of cutting costs here he was looking for a way out.
     
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    Well I meant no disrespect. To them :D

    Maybe it'd a bit of disrespect to who they played in the groups and the fact the played the same side twice there.

    But it was the first good side imo.

    Yes they did OK to get the draw second leg bit that's how it goes.

    I mean. Let's face it lfc went out to the first good side we met too :shrug
     
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    He'll get money at West Ham. Before this season and the Rice money, according to transfermarkt, West Ham had an expenditure of €530m from 2018-2023.
     
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    Lol, crazy.

     
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    100m :laugh:

    Not surprised they came in for him. FO Bayern.
     
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    They're going to end up going cap in hand to Tuchel, begging him to stay. :laugh:
     
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    Once the fans started calling for Tuchel over Rangnick they should have just given in then.

    It's wild how big clubs like that can become such basket cases all of a sudden. They must have just gotten bored dominating all the time in Germany.
     
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    Tuchel & Ten Bald will swap jobs it's clear at this point.
     
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    Gonna be a few baldies as manager next season
     
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    I think the football world has undervalued managers for far too long, and is just starting to catch up.

    Far more impactful on a team than one player. I’d rather lose Toney than Frank. Why shouldn’t they be valued more than they are? (I get why not as much as players, there’s always half decent managers available, etc)

    I don’t think it’ll be long till we see £30-40m manager transfers.

    £86m is crazy, but I get why.
     

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