Assuming that's with the notion of independence being scuppered for the next decade or two, on what basis?
For the record if they couldn't get anything through over brexit and backed off the tories then they won't have the momentum for this for the next 5 years which is all we can really think labour might be in power for at this point. It will take a long build up towards this new vote imo
I just think there will be an SNP majority again, I live here, work here, from here. Labour and Tories are an irrelevance here now and have been for years. I believe that will continue You can say it honestly. Labour don't have the balls therefore imo they won't get the backing here. I still believe England will also have a serious case of collapsed arse syndrome and the Tories will get at least another term. Why? Because no one is stopping the ongoing complete decline of what British even means anymore
I appreciate I'm looking at domestic Scottish politics very much from an outsider's perspective. But, as much as there doesn't seem to be much talent in either the Conservative or Labour ranks up there from what I see, I also struggle to see how going back to a leader from 20+ years past whose previous stint in the job did not go well and whose perceived weaknesses are well known to his political opponents can really be seen as a positive change either. It may well be useful for the SNP in the short term that Kate Forbes has chosen not to stand against John Swinney for the leadership but I do think she would be a harder opponent for Labour and the Tories to deal with. Certainly I can't help the suspicion that there was also an element of longer-term calculation to her announcement today. Down here, the next 24 hours or so may offer at least some clues as to where we may be heading when the general election eventually takes place (I said 'See you in November' to the staff at my polling station when I voted in my area's elections today). But, unless something quite dramatic happens, I genuinely believe there is as much chance of me excreting gold as there is of the Tories remaining in power. It's not a matter of what it means to be British in my mind but a sense that the country is profoundly broken and this government is simply too damaged, too tainted by its past and too far from reality to be the change that people desperately need. I'm not suggesting there is great enthusiasm for Labour but it does feel like the Tories are well past the point of no return where anything has to be better than them. Whoever is in power, though, I can't imagine a UK government offering another referendum without there being an outright SNP majority in Holyrood.
Great post, I apologise, I assumed you were one of the wind up merchants that dive in on anything negative happening here. It's my opinion that Britain has been broken politically for over a decade now, austerity broke Britain and certainly broke working class Scotland where I'm from and we've Continued to have embarrassment after embarrassment walk through the hallowed doors of 10 Downing Street ever since. We've had the shambles of the independence referendum hoovered up by fake news about whether or not we could survive. This country could survive no problem and would thrive under independence. Even the rest of the UK would thrive without us. We then had the shambles of Brexit, if there was a point beyond showing overt racism as a character trait of Great Britain I'm yet to see it. The Covid shambles which I'm sure we're all aware of. The ensuing mass decline of doctor's appointments The ensuing decline of health standards Liz f***ing Truss I could go on but the point is they've been voted back in every time, imo that will carry on as long as the UK sleepwalks itself into oblivion.
I've no idea how old you are but your conviction that the Tories are going to win the next election leads me to think perhaps you don't remember politics before 2010? My apologies if my assumption is hopelessly wrong. I honestly can't envisage anything but annihilation for the Conservatives at the next G.E., they have destroyed everything whilst at the same time piling a tax burden upon us that has never been seen before in living memory. Their outright lies are too numerous to bother reciting, one has only to look about to see the devastation to our education system, health system, council system, legal system and welfare system, it really is a case of 'pay more - get less' under the most crooked, immoral, mentally twisted, most self serving shower of selfish mental pygmies in British political history. The thought that significant numbers of people who are too stupid to see the ruins of 14 years of Tory chumocracy everwhere they look still exist is too awful to contemplate.
I'm 42, born February 82 and lived through what 30 ish years of that time being ruled by Tories. Probably where my opinion, not conviction, comes from
Fair enough, as I said I apologise for my incorrect assumption. I'm even more mystified then as to why you can't see that the nation (the Union) is sick to the back teeth of the incumbent shower of wankers and is itching for the chance to boot them out, there's a mood for change in the air.
I do see it BUT I have seen it before. 70 per cent of my life is influencing my opinion obviously. It's also a large part of why I'm pro independence.
We will find out soon enough. The tories are talking up how great they were last time so losing 500 seats is to be expected and no big deal today. They are pinning their hopes on a few mayors as porrf they will be fine at the ge. There's.no way these tories get back in. It's more likely sunak gets shafted next
Anything more than 0 Tory seats in the next election is indicative of massive moral failing of the people.
